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Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

CJane — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:51:37 -0000

Here we go, one more step towards third world status. What a moron!

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

CJane — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:49:14 -0000

It's only failure is to not include all of us which would make those 'fat greedy capitalists' that run the health insurance industry have to go looking for another multimillion dollar a year salary somewhere else!

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

TommyF — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:40:36 -0000

Isn't California going bankrupt? That sure is an awesome economy.

Re: Why are ICE agents in Mexico?

Timothy.f — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:22:12 -0000

I am Timothy fokkema from the Netherlands.
You are right and it irritates me that most americans dont relize what the source of the problem is and how mutch more simple the selution can be then the people think.
If youre goverment is just willing to put its ego aside for the good of there people witch should be there top priority.
I find it very sad to see and extremeley irrisponsibel and am stunned Mexico doesnt charge the USA with all there deaths.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:46:05 -0000

We have seen what penalties do to jobs, just look at for instance, the minimum wage penalty, and how it prevents unskilled workers, typically those just graduating high school from beginning their careers as paid apprentices.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:43:44 -0000

Low paying jobs are the beginning points of most careers, unskilled become skilled once they are given the chance. Having lower minimum wage allows for those unskilled to become skilled, no we do not need everyone to have an MBA, just a basic work ethic.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:41:52 -0000

Would you work for 10 cents an hour? I wouldn't work for minimum wage either. It is a farce. Get rid of welfare, and I could accept leaving the minimum wage in place, but not both.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Suckmyballs — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:13:06 -0000

you do realize that there is a minimum wage and a tipped minimum wage you dumb fuck!!! tipped employees do not make true minimum wage but you would never know this because you obviously have never worked a job in that field nor have any insight into it

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Vanillafirefly — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:01:11 -0000

So who will do the unskilled job that pay lower wages if everyone has big degrees and has "bettered" themselves? Are you trying to tell us that because some people for what ever reason are, for lack of a better term, unskilled that they should not earn at least enough to survive? What happens when we become the nation of people who all have MBA's and are willing to do whatever job for pennies an hour?? That's assuming that we bcome a nation where collegiate education becomes affordable for everyone. We will always need people to clean public facilities and work in restaurants. Are you saying that these people should have to work 5 or 6 jobs just to make ends meet in a country where it costs so much to live and receive healthcare? Are you saying that those people are all ready on the dole and are accounted for?? Very dismal picture you paint. I don't think you have a full grip on the bigger picture here.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Jonathan Baez — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:45:41 -0000

getting rid of minimum wage is ludacris! how can you expect to survive on ten cents an hour if you cant live on ten dollars an hour?. want the US to come back? lets stop giving billions to countries that support terrorism, outlaw job outsourcing or make it very, very costly for the company. abolish the right to work state so unions can thrive, tax the wealthy heavily why should the ceo make a billion a year for playing golf etc. when i work for a living? America was founded by the principle of government for the people, by the people NOT the corporation

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Divelda — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:45:35 -0000

We don't need to punish the poor of our country more to make it better. Heavy penalties on outsourcing might make it less attractive to sell out jobs to foreigners who work for pesos a day. If the American people don't make money, they don't have to in turn spend.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:19:47 -0000

Exactly, it's the same market forces that are at play when an individual earns 80k a year, they refuse to work for less, and employers know it is worth that much to them.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Adam — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:04:40 -0000

Here is a quick situation.

Joe wants a job. Bob offers him a job as a clerk for 1$ a hour. Joe thinks that is unacceptable, and goes to work for Fred, who pays 6$ an hour. Bob is a stingy guy and is unable to employ anyone, and goes out of business.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Adam — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:33:12 -0000

"without a minumum wage in place whats to keep employers from paying less than a dollar an hour?"

Are you willing to work for a dollar an hour? Any business that's stupid enough to have that low of a wage is going to have a extremely hard time functioning. Any business that 's smart enough to realize that a higher paying wage will attract workers will flourish, as they will have the pick from the more skilled workers. The free market, like it or not, is actually very fluid, and can react to most every situation.

Here's a situation. John owns a store, and a new worker is worth about 6.50 an hour. He wants to make money, so he is willing to employ a worker for 6.00 an hour. Bob is willing to work for 6.00 an hour. Unfortunately, the local bureaucracy decided that the minimum wage is 7.00 an hour. Being a smart business owner, John realizes that losing money would put him out of business. John makes less profit, and Bob is out of a job. Everyone loses, but at least we can feel good about fighting the fat greedy capitalist pigs.

The basic reason why the minimum wage fails is because there is 3 effects the minimum wage can have.

1. The minimum wage is lower than the worth of the employee's labour.

No effect.

2. The minimum wage is the same as the worth of the employee's labour.

No effect.

3. The minimum wage is higher than the worth of the employee's labour.

The employee is out of a job.

The natural reaction to this is that without the minimum wage, people would work for pennies an hour. However, in the same way that employees rely on the employer for money, the employer is reliant on the employee for labour.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Mary E Stimac — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:24:59 -0000

Yes, some kids may be lazy, but I'd bet a good portion of them are already overwhelmed with school and extracurricular activities. I graduated eleven years ago, and during my last two years, I did homework for about two hours a night on an average day. I did more when a test was coming up or a big paper was due. My school didn't allow a study hour or early release to go to a job. The average amount of homework kids do now has increased even more, not to mention the pressure to join in extra-curricular activities that look good on a college application. All in all, I'd say the average college-bound teenager today works harder than most adults.

Re: Ron Paul For President – No To Raising The Debt Ceiling

Bill Bernanke — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:27:08 -0000

Youre a giant pussy

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

USA USA USA — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:26:41 -0000

2% of the popullation may make the minimum wage but between 15-20% make below 18,000 a year the only reason companies may pay more to an employee is to keep the investment made in their personnel even if there wage is slightly higher then miniium wage i would not be willing to leave a higher paying job for a lesser if the workload and responsibilty were equal. To think if the minimum wage abolished these people would continue to get there dime above minimum wage is idiotic its to easy to take advantage of peoples faces you are not forced to look at and the only people that would benefit is big business and the lower class would be forced to work harder to be poorer and require more assistance from the gov and would deserve it but would be looked down on as leeches of the system. if the minimum wage were abolished wages across poor and middle class would decline and goods and services would not follow suit i thourghly believe this was posted to rile certain indivuals and it worked but I have been hearing this type of talk often lately and even by upcoming presidential canidates its time to be proactive dont allow the small percentage of the rich to determine our fate we may not have money to run and place lobbyist where needed but our vote is equal and if 20% of the us popullation would vote it would be the highest turnout to date. dont be a slave to a party the doesnt represent you vote on veiws and moral character honesty may be hard to find but a man that would cheat on his wife would also break the oath of public office they swore to god for the both of them.get informed go vote a legit 3rd part would end alot of the BS that we have seen over the years.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:53:27 -0000

Yes this idiot author who actually did research is correct based on that research that less than 2% of workers actually make minimum wage.

For you to justify to me that the worker who is less skilled than greater than 98% of this country deserves anything except a low wage is beyond me. Every situation is unique, however most actual working age workers at minimum wage will simply be living on the government through food stamps, fuel assistance, etc. Explain to me why raising minimum wage and paying welfare makes sense?

Let's abolish minimum wage.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

Talk of Liberty — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:48:38 -0000

No silver spoon my friend, my father never worked a day in my life, on disability checks. Single mother working two jobs to have a Christmas. I do not talk about my lack of anything as a rational for something that is wrong.

Why your wife only has the value of a dime over minimum wage is beyond me. Has she ever done anything to better herself, to advance herself, to earn more? Is it better that she be laid off and outsourced the job to China instead, does that help you out economically?

That is the real world, being the least skilled worker in this country doesn't pay, and should not pay out of pitty. Business doesn't care that your wife deserves more, the kid in India with an MBA willing to do it at the same price is what sets a market rate. I do not ignore the economic facts of reality, it is you sir who does.

Re: Stossel Gets The Freeloaders Wrong

Ron Bass — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:34:03 -0000

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Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

wm tipton — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:38:57 -0000

"With each increase in minimum wage, it is becoming harder and harder for
small businesses to start up and grow, and is creating a generation of
kids with no work history."
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Completely illogical.

1. a HUGE reason kids have no work history these days, sorry to say, is that this is by FAR the laziest damned generation of kids this nation has spewed out to date.
It was bad enough when I was growing up...some of the worthless friends I knew way back when are still living in their mothers basements, smoking pot and hanging out on the corner. Its gotten nothing but worse in 25 years.

2. The solution *MAY* be to lower the minimum wage for SCHOOL AGED kids (18 and under), since that seems to be your big concern.
But there are folks working up as high as FIVE part time, minimum wage jobs who have households to support, my friend. And just because YOU had daddy to depend on for your pocket change MOST of these folks are self reliant and DONT have that luxury. Take away minimum wage and they can no longer feed their kids or pay their rent.

Step back and get a hold on reality.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

wm tipton — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:33:00 -0000

"however if minimum wage is $7.00 an hour and your "generous" boss gives
you $7.15 an hour this is not doing you a huge favor, yet its still
technically above minimum wage"
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Something that is VERY common as that is exactly what the huge corp that my wife works for does....pay just enough to be 'above' minimum wage....by about a dime or so.

This author clearly is out of touch with reality and my guess is was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has lived off daddies money his whole life so far.
If he ever has to survive in the REAL world of minimum wage then maybe he'll have an opinion worth reading.

Re: Abolish Minimum Wage

wm tipton — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:28:32 -0000

Even if this idiot author is correct and less than 2% of workers make minimum wage, there are huge companies out there who employ tens of thousands or more workers who keep them at minimum wage and only increase to keep up with that wage.
Take away this minimum and these soulless corporations will be paying people like my wife FAR less than what they need to survive.

Im definitely NOT a left winger and I detest unions so anyone claiming that minimum wage is a union/left wing thing is FULL OF CRAP!

Re: If Government Shuts Down Parks Will Close

Talk of Liberty — Sat, 14 May 2011 20:58:49 -0000

Well put, The Chinese will be glad to own the Grand Canyon.

Re: If Government Shuts Down Parks Will Close

Matt Kukowski — Fri, 13 May 2011 18:35:24 -0000

Yeah, funny isn't it? That ANY government can take ownership of something so HUGE and of natures grandest of works, put a gate there and 'close it down'. What a joke. Government people have taken every land grab and are using it as a 'sell-able asset'... this means if the Chinese want rights to some of the revenues the parks make then the US government can sell it off as an asset to China to pay off some ridiculous debt situation. Amazing isn't it? Alex Jones chronicled this in the 90's, made a documentary about it... but like always everyone things he is conspiracy Theorist #1 so is dismissed. Watch it in detail if you like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... #1 so is dismissed. Watch it in detail if you like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...